The person who told me I was rude was a Babyshambles fan who had come to see Peter play solo in Norwich. I remember this show but I don't remember being rude to anyone. I did tell some lads to fuck off later in the evening when they started getting a bit lairy and creepy but that wasn't rudeness it was more ehm .... shall we say stating a fact. i.e. For every action there is a reaction. For every act there are consequences. Start shouting abuse at me and the crew at two in the morning then there will certainly a reaction, a consequence and being told to "Fuck off ya trumpet!" is quite a minor consequence really when you consider the options.
When it is a gig day I do have a bit of a personality change. My business partner and even my parents have even been quite taken aback by it. My only concern is to get the act onstage, have a great show and get the band and crew safely on the bus stowed away for the next show.
I have developed what I would describe my 'show day head' which could appear as abrupt or short. It is often taken for abrupt, short and even rude by people when they encounter me. It's normally described as rude when they are not getting what they want.
You see that's what it really comes down to ....
If I am asked a question I will consider my answer and give it. This answer is generally a 'yes' or a 'no'. 'Yes' never requires an explanation but say no to someone and they're gonna want a detailed fuckin' essay on why not? Either that or they are going to want to change my mind. Neither of these things are going to happen so when they start down that road I politely say 'no' again. That'll be it all starting over again with the 'why not's?' and the 'go on's' .... sorry folks I ain't got the time and I have made my mind up for considered reasons and if you don't like that because you're not getting what / where you want then what can I say really .... it's you who are ruder and more selfish than me.
Other potential sources of my rudeness ....
1. The Bus.
The bus is our home. The bus is where we sleep. The bus is where we relax. The bus is where we argue. The bus is where we make up. The bus is where we store our private possessions and valuables. Am I rude because I won't let you on it? Am I rude because when I find you messing with the door in a dark car park I tell you to stop it? Am I rude when I stop you writing 'I Love U Pete' in marker pen on the trailer? Would you go up to the front door of someone you don't know have a fiddle with the door and if it's unlocked have a wander about inside? No, didn't think so. So that's me not being rude there either.
2. The Dressing Room.
Now quite why someone would want to hang out in a dressing room is beyond me. In general they are small, cramped, often smelly and have absolutely NOTHING to do in them. Believe me, I know, I have been bored senseless in enough of them in my time. The idea that this is some kind of mystical shangrila, a door to a magical land of rock 'n' roll fun and mystery is .... frankly a load of old cobblers. To be honest most of the band and crew avoid the dressing room until just before the gig and leave it shortly after the gig. Before the show the band want (and often need) to be alone to prepare themselves so if someone had managed to get in (unlikely) and I ask them to leave this is not rude although it is often taken as such. If someone tries to get in after th show and I won't let them in it's because either a.) they're not supposed to be there or b.) the band have just come off stage after having poured their hearts out for an hour and a bit and maybe would like breather and a bit of peace and quiet.
Another thing about the dressing room is that very often it's another private place to store valuables or instruments and for this reasons understandably off limits.
At The Troxy show I had the misfortune of meeting a minor celebrity and her coterie of lickspittles but every cloud has a silver lining .... I had the pleasure of booting their sorry arses out of the dressing room. Picture this .... the band are on stage of the last night of the tour, a tour which a lot of people had put a lot of blood, sweat and tears (literally) into, I walk past the dressing room and hear a racket going on in there.
Now this was a new venue and the securty staff perhaps not as experienced as I am sure they will become. My pass system may appear complex but it is actually pretty simple. Band, crew, management and assistants will have a laminate. No-one without a laminate gets in the dressing room without one unless accompanied by someone with an escort laminate (of which there are only three). So quite how ten people managed to get through this system and esconce themselves in the dressing room I am not sure but it happened.
Anyhow, the dressing room contained all our food, drinks, clothes, some bags and a smoke alarm. A smoke alarm which had been redundant because not even the band were smoking in there because of the punative fine associated with it and the fact that there was a smoking exit about five feet away. Did these nobs care? Nah, not their problem.
So, I'm walking down the corridor to get something mid-show, and that's the important bit .... mid-show, I hear the noise from the dressing room and go in to find little Miss Sunshine and her hangers on helping themselves to our hospitality. Now, they got their tickets for free (not from me I may add), they got into the show, they had passes which would have gotten them into an aftershow party if we decided to have one but .... not good enough. They didn't even have the courtesy to watch the performance. I am sure you can imagine what happened next but was that me being rude? I don't think so. I think the rudeness was coming from their side not mine. How disrespectful is that? They were further annoyed when they tried to get on the side of the stage (a working area). They certainly didn't want to watch from the front where you can actually hear the show properly. God forbid they mix with the 'civilians' (fuck I hate that term, only ever used by arseholes) and see / hear the show properly. They'd rather be seen stageside because it makes them 'special' .... fuck 'em!
2. Access To The Band (Peter In Particular).
Now, I have never worked with a band who are as genuinely close to their fans as Babyshambles. Whenever appropriate they will spend as much time as possible with them, keep in touch on the internet, hang out, get them involved, give them work experience, sneak them into sold out shows, make arrangements for them to be more comfortable at shows, fight with heavy handed security staff, monitor the crowd for arseholes or danger situations, pull a fan in distress out of the crowd, sink a beer with them etc etc etc.
I also fully understand the love the fans have for the band members and how special they are to their lives for a million different reasons. I know that it's the dream of many fans to meet their heroes, have a chat etc etc but sometimes this isn't possible. The reasons for this vary from the fact that they might be sleeping or need a bit of time on their own to the fact that there may be a crush or a scrum outside the bus which is potentially dangerous for the band member or the fan alike. If that is the case then I will pull them indoors and close it until the crowd disperses to a safe level. Sorry but that just the way it is and if that means you didn't get you ticket signed it may have been worth it because it may have meant that some kid didn't get their arm broken.
I'm trying to come up with other examples when I may be perceived as rude but I am at a loss now. Suggestions welcome ....
Oh! There's is one .... the fact that I am a curmudgeonly bastard with no manners!
amen to that
ReplyDeleteAw Adrian, you're just doing your job and keeping everyone safe and focused. Don't take it to heart.
ReplyDeleteBeing the grown up is never fun, but somebody's gotta do it.
I don't think you are ever rude. The way you deal with some of these people is a manner far more patient and tolerant and kind and polite way than anyone else would treat them or that they deserve. maybe that's the problem - you are too nice to them. next time one gives you any trouble, get their shoes off and have them kneeling before you as you brush your teeth in your boxers. again.
ReplyDeletei tottally agree with this, none of that makes you rude whatsoever. x
ReplyDeleteOh My God. I forgot about that episode. Something snapped and I turned into Bob Hoskins in The Long Good Friday (how apt today). Mind you that plum thoroughly deserved everything he got.
ReplyDeleteHe was about two feet taller than me too ... until I took his shoes off him.
ReplyDeleteAdrian you are doing an absolutely stellar job, don't let any cunt tell you otherwise. And yes i am also appalled by the number of people being just plain rude/idiotic in certain environments. it's just beyond me.
ReplyDelete(somehow i was expecting this entry to be about rude boys though, i'm disappointed)
be proud, indeed! was at the troxy - why anyone would want to be in a dressingroom instead of seeing the gig is beyond me... stupid... and it was so very good... am no celebrity, pay for my ticket, queued, got crushed (but not too badly)... bet I enjoyed it so much more than they did... wouldn't want it any other way.
ReplyDeleteNo you are NOT rude.
ReplyDeleteFuck off the lot of you!
ReplyDeleteHow rude... Oh wait ^_^
ReplyDeleteIt is unbelievable that you should have to explain all that. Your reactions seem so normal to me...
ReplyDeletename and shame the scurrilous (sp?) tart! - if she could go to the recent tour and either listen in dressing room or side of stage - she has no soul!
ReplyDeletenever rude to me...cheeky but never rude
ReplyDeleteYeah BB, you can be a rude git at times, as experienced personally at a gig in London last year. You did explain the "show day head" thing to me afterwards which is fair enough, but perhaps you should take a deep breath the next time you scowl, berate or grump at someone at a gig, it´s terribly offputting and can detract from the fact that you´re actually a good bloke. All your hard work is deeply appreciated, so thank you and take care.
ReplyDeleteYou are the king of rudeness!! All rise!!! Are you going for the world title? You should, you have a good chance!
ReplyDeletecheeky and grumpy indeed but not rue. Love you bébé ours!
ReplyDeleteTo the 'fourteen year old' commenter. Your comment did make me laugh but I could not POSSIBLY approve it you sick, sick person.
ReplyDeleteSeek help, if not for yourself but for those around you.
No you're not rude! You're very polite and extremely helpful. You are sometimes a little grumpy and inclined to be a bit defensive, but if I were in your shoes I think I would be too. What size are they, by the way? :)
ReplyDeleteMate , your a manager of a band ,who cares if your rude or not ? If I saw you in the street I wouldnt know who you are or infact care let alone mind about your manners . I go to gigs to see bands I like, if their managers a moody so and so it doesnt make a difference to me , hes not what I came to see .
ReplyDeleteJust like now I went to have a poke about a shambles forum & here I find you are getting a complex . The ego has landed eh ....
You are rude. And rather possessive. I am a friend of Peter's and you know I am a good friend of his, and you still insist on being a miserable bad tempered git who wants to monopolise him. I think you fancy him. Andy is much cooler than you.
ReplyDelete'Course your not rude .. you bought me a pint last night.
ReplyDelete'course you're not rude .. you bought me a pint last night!
ReplyDeleteYour job implies a bit of rudeness towards certain people who behave certain way. Exiting thing about you is that you care to explain why you behave the way you do. Really appreciative. May be helpful for someone.
ReplyDeleteChrissy Boi? Whay are you even reading this then you fucking idiot? Hoisted by your own petard you nob!
ReplyDeleteAnonymous .... I have a fair idea who you are and whatever slight privileges you think you had are now rescinded! Good friend of Peter's .... haha! You're so lame. Do you think I wouldn't let a 'good' friend of Peter's backstage which is clearly what you are bleating about. Andy probably seems cooler than me because he doesn't treat you as you deserve and gives you the old 'yeah, yeah' treatment then I eventually have to deal with your boring, boring shite about how 'close' you are to Peter.
ReplyDeleteGood on you. Someone has to say it!
ReplyDeleteYou're doing a great job man. Keep up the good work! x